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Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By Smirt211
9/24/2017 4:07 am
Yes, he creates space with the sharp cut and then blasts away with the speed. The elite receivers fly off the screen. It feels good when you hit one of those. lol

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By martinwarnett
9/24/2017 7:34 am
I sense this is a thread I'm going to have to read end-to-end... sweet.

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By setherick
10/29/2017 7:29 pm
Here are my updated weights now that I've gotten more experience with 0.4.2. These will probably stay my weights unless there are major changes with zone coverage in 0.4.3.

The only difference to the philosophy is that the tertiary category has been split into two categories. Point values are listed in the spreadsheet.

Before anyone asks about Speed, see this thread: https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/community/3/3713?page=1

Before anyone asks about Zone, see this thread: https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/community/3/3581?page=1

The Weights
Public Google Docs link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_aU-a7wlLr8ckU1MFlOb3R4N00/view?usp=sharing

QBs
These weights are stripped way down. What I've found in 0.4.2 is that a QB can survive if he has Speed (and enough Acceleration), or if he has good Scramble, or if he has good Break Tackle, so I've moved all of those to 1 point. What this means is that these weights now focus more on how the QBs throw the ball.

To see how the passing code flow works refer to this thread: https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/community/3/3579?page=1

RBs
Biggest change here is emphasizing Avoid Fumble over all other secondary skills. I did this after participating in an allocation draft recently and watching my RBs fumble away a lot of opportunities in the first year. Break Tackle gets the nod over Carry because I'm an inside running team. If you run an outside running offense, swap Carry and Break Tackle. My goal isn't to hit home runs each time, which is where Carry is better than Break Tackle My goal is to get 4-5 YPC.

Also, fair warning here. I move my RBs around, and I employ two different types of RBs. I employ the ground pounder, which is captured in the weights. But I also employ a pass catching back. In run heavy formations, I'm going to have the ground pounder as my RB1. In pass heavy sets, I'm going to use the pass catching back. Ideally, my RB1 will do both well, but this isn't necessary or guaranteed.

FBs
I weight these guys, but I'm moving away from them. I'm either drafting them to play RB or I'm sliding my best Run Blocking backup TE into the FB spot. In pass heavy formations, I sub in my best Pass Blocking, pass catching RB. If that guy is a FB, I'm probably going to make him an RB to shed the weight.

WRs
I go back-and-forth on WRs and what the most important skill after Speed should be. Is it Courage? Is it Route? Is it Catching? Right now, I'm going with Catching since that seems logical. But realistically, I look at all of the attributes of my WRs individually when determining where on the field I want them to line up.

CBs
Like WRs, I got back-and-forth on CBs. Here I've reverted back to an old method of evaluating WRs. QBs are getting more accurate, so any separation is deadly. Also, I've noticed that Punish doesn't make up for bad M2M like it used to. This is purely anecdotal though. I haven't see anything that suggest it has changed.

Punisher, let me know what other threads need linked. I think you have bookmarks for everything that are alphabetized by game philosophy and weighted by number of replies. ;)

EDIT: Yes, I know that sometimes Intelligence is rated at 25 points and sometimes it's rated at 15. This is (mostly) on purpose. I value it as a tertiary skills for most positions, but I don't want to overweight other attributes with it, which is why sometimes its a 15 pointer.
Last edited at 10/29/2017 8:34 pm

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By tribewriter
10/30/2017 11:48 am
Thanks again for sharing.

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By Smirt211
10/30/2017 11:57 am
Wrong thread: edited.

Last edited at 10/30/2017 11:58 am

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By setherick
10/30/2017 11:55 pm
According to JDB, DBs have a dice roll against their Zone Cover to prevent a player from getting behind them in the zone. I can swear this is a change from what I'm used to, so it may be worth putting a few more points in zone cover if you plan on running more zone defense. I don't know how much I trust it yet, but I may experiment with it in one of my beta league teams or another league where my secondary is not that great just to see if I can get a full zone defense to work.

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By Smirt211
10/31/2017 11:11 am
I constantly see the DB standing frozen while singing the Pharcyde's "Passin' Me By" as the WR zips right past them. DB holds to a short zone and releases the WR to no defender that awaits behind him but maybe it's being worked on!
Last edited at 10/31/2017 11:12 am

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By setherick
10/31/2017 11:53 am
Smirt211 wrote:
I constantly see the DB standing frozen while singing the Pharcyde's "Passin' Me By" as the WR zips right past them. DB holds to a short zone and releases the WR to no defender that awaits behind him but maybe it's being worked on!


That's been my experience as well, but apparently there is a dice roll to determine whether the DB will track the WR outside of the zone. The roll itself is based on a DB's zone cover, so what I've been seeing may be an experience of bad zone cover since I favor M2M and rarely look at zone. I'm going to figure out a few leagues that I want to experiment with running a zone defense again with.

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By mardn72
10/31/2017 12:01 pm
Smirt211 wrote:
I constantly see the DB standing frozen while singing the Pharcyde's "Passin' Me By" as the WR zips right past them. DB holds to a short zone and releases the WR to no defender that awaits behind him but maybe it's being worked on!


I did notice that JDB said the "deep zone" tries to stay with the deepest person. So it may be that the short zones won't work anywhere other than the goal line right now.

Re: Most Important Attributes by Position (Revised and Updated)

By setherick
10/31/2017 12:22 pm
mardn72 wrote:
Smirt211 wrote:
I constantly see the DB standing frozen while singing the Pharcyde's "Passin' Me By" as the WR zips right past them. DB holds to a short zone and releases the WR to no defender that awaits behind him but maybe it's being worked on!


I did notice that JDB said the "deep zone" tries to stay with the deepest person. So it may be that the short zones won't work anywhere other than the goal line right now.


Oh, that's a good point. I misread Smirt's comment.