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Low scores

By Cjfred68
9/05/2018 2:32 am
Having the AI do the game planning resulted in some very low scoring results.....so far

14 teams scored 10 or less
26 teams scored 18 or less
6. teams scored 21 or higher with a high of 32

We had 6 games with scores of

3-2, 10-7, 9-3, 9-7, 12-7, and 9-9

This should make for a very interesting league

Re: Low scores

By g10rsh
9/05/2018 4:54 am
We scored 15, but 9 of that was defensive

Re: Low scores

By punisher
9/05/2018 1:12 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
Having the AI do the game planning resulted in some very low scoring results.....so far

14 teams scored 10 or less
26 teams scored 18 or less
6. teams scored 21 or higher with a high of 32

We had 6 games with scores of

3-2, 10-7, 9-3, 9-7, 12-7, and 9-9

This should make for a very interesting league



that actually Bodes well for this league or any other league that gets created that is like this league and basically because of 1 reason that shows or tells you that anyone has a chance to win a game and maybe the league instead of maybe having like select few that most likely are going to WIN it awhile everyone else is competing for 2nd place.

Re: Low scores

By Cjfred68
9/05/2018 1:21 pm
Time will tell, I'm hoping the offense will improve over time as players develop since this is coming off an allocation draft but then again the defense should be having the same developmental issues yet has dominated.

If it holds true, competitive balance may be a good thing but I'm not sure how excited owners will be watching there team in a bunch of low scoring defensive battles like that 3-2 thrill ride.

My fear is that the AI will make very predictable vanilla game plans that keep the results low scoring and in the long run boring.

Re: Low scores

By punisher
9/05/2018 2:16 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
Time will tell, I'm hoping the offense will improve over time as players develop since this is coming off an allocation draft but then again the defense should be having the same developmental issues yet has dominated.

If it holds true, competitive balance may be a good thing but I'm not sure how excited owners will be watching there team in a bunch of low scoring defensive battles like that 3-2 thrill ride.

My fear is that the AI will make very predictable vanilla game plans that keep the results low scoring and in the long run boring.


true yet i would think you would look at it the point of it will make you better at getting talent or eye for talent that might make those low scoring games into maybe a big winning margin something like 16+.

though if you made a poll regardless in just this league or the community forums about what games people like either be low scoring or high scoring i would say people would like the low scoring because at least you have a chance to win like you get a FG or maybe a touchdown you win instead of something like you would need something like 5+ touchdowns to win the game.

btw just my 2 cents nothing less and nothing more.
Last edited at 9/05/2018 2:16 pm

Re: Low scores

By Cjfred68
9/05/2018 3:40 pm
I dont need a poll to know that people would prefer watching high scoring games 38-35 over watching low scoring 10-7 games. Watching both teams go 3 and out, struggle to pick up first downs and punting 10 times a game would get really boring over the coarse of a season. It's fine every so often and even in the playoffs but not on a week to week basis. All you need for proof is to watch the NFL. The rules have changed to make it slanted more to the offense, people love watching Brady, Brees and Roger's because they put up points and make spectactual plays. Beckham, Brown, Jones make highlight reel catches shown over and over again and now the NFL has implemented rules on tackling which will hamper defenses even more and extent drives.

The great part about this sim is watching your QB, RB and WR put up stats that challenge for the best ever in that league. Not many will get too hyped about a DTs tackle totals although people do love sacks.

I made a point about the scoring because it was VERY low on average. It that trend persists then it makes the sim not only unrealistic but also unwatchable which will lose owners interest quickly. I am not an NFL historian but I doubt there has been an NFL game, regular or preseason with a final score of 3-2 in over 50 years.

Re: Low scores

By hchoudhry17
9/05/2018 3:44 pm
in my experience, offensive players benefit more with years of development vs defense in early allocations. lets see as we go on, it was only a preseason game anyways.

Re: Low scores

By RedNU
9/05/2018 3:59 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
I am not an NFL historian but I doubt there has been an NFL game, regular or preseason with a final score of 3-2 in over 50 years.


From the department of useless information, I don't have access to pre-season scores, but eight games have featured 5 or fewer points in the NFL since 1966 (but only once in the 2000s). None have been 3-2 final scores though:

1 2007/11/26 Pittsburgh Steelers 3 - Miami Dolphins 0
1 1993/12/11 New York Jets 3 - Washington Redskins 0
1 1982/12/12 New England Patriots 3 - Miami Dolphins 0
1 1979/12/16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3 - Kansas City Chiefs 0
1 1977/10/16 Buffalo Bills 3 - Atlanta Falcons 0
1 1971/11/14 Minnesota Vikings 3 - Green Bay Packers 0
7 1978/10/22 Buffalo Bills 5 - Cincinnati Bengals 0
7 1970/12/26 Dallas Cowboys 5 - Detroit Lions 0

That said, I agree that an abundance of ultra-low scores probably would not be healthy over the long haul. That said, one preseason game makes for a small data set so I'm nowhere near ready to panic yet.
Last edited at 9/05/2018 3:59 pm

Re: Low scores

By Cjfred68
9/05/2018 4:18 pm
I agree, only time will tell, I was just making an observation based on my experience. This is the 10th team I've drafted in an allocation draft. I also have a degree in statistical analysis, I work in a field where it's my job to find patterns in the numbers so it just stood out to me. I admit it is a small sample size, so it's just something to keep an eye on, in my opinion. I've been wrong before....plenty


Re: Low scores

By Cjfred68
9/05/2018 4:26 pm
RedNU wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
I am not an NFL historian but I doubt there has been an NFL game, regular or preseason with a final score of 3-2 in over 50 years.


From the department of useless information, I don't have access to pre-season scores, but eight games have featured 5 or fewer points in the NFL since 1966 (but only once in the 2000s). None have been 3-2 final scores though:

1 2007/11/26 Pittsburgh Steelers 3 - Miami Dolphins 0
1 1993/12/11 New York Jets 3 - Washington Redskins 0
1 1982/12/12 New England Patriots 3 - Miami Dolphins 0
1 1979/12/16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3 - Kansas City Chiefs 0
1 1977/10/16 Buffalo Bills 3 - Atlanta Falcons 0
1 1971/11/14 Minnesota Vikings 3 - Green Bay Packers 0
7 1978/10/22 Buffalo Bills 5 - Cincinnati Bengals 0
7 1970/12/26 Dallas Cowboys 5 - Detroit Lions 0

That said, I agree that an abundance of ultra-low scores probably would not be healthy over the long haul. That said, one preseason game makes for a small data set so I'm nowhere near ready to panic yet.


That is awesome.....and thank you for sharing that